three times larger than it was under george w. bush and 18 times larmer than it was under president clinton. i don't support going to syria in a military invasion but we need to have the financial and political tackle foreign entanglement, and drowning under the tsunami of debt doesn't allow to us protect ourselves. >> david: one angle of this is iran supports assad. he supports the guy we're going after in this battle. iran hasser i has terrorists tot costly for us with political and financial capital. >> that wouldn't change my view. conservatives have to get real. if they're for a smaller government they can't have military force defending some of the richest countries in the world. if we dislike healthcare here we have to not support military care for other countries. >> we have to provide umbrella. if we withdraw from the worlds the countries will defend themselves and that's a volatile world. i don't want japan to have nuclear arms. europe today war is inconceivable there. >> this is a region that takes years or decades if n